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I'm considering, only considering at the mo, breeding from my mare, the alternative being buying a young quarter horse.
But this is a stallion I like, so would like comments please on what you think about him???
This guy is a pretty nice looking horse. Great colouring. Do you know his breeding? Looks like he may have some Skipper W in his back ground.

I guess the answer to whether he is the horse for you to breed to or not depends upon what you want to do with the baby.

This guy is a good solid looking fellow. Nice head with willing expression. Head ties in nicely to his neck with a trim throat latch. Nice neck tied into his shoulders well. Maybe a trifle thick.

Good front end, nicely sloped shoulder, nice short back and long under line.

Hips are not as good as front end, tail is set a bit high and his muscling around his hip could be better for his over all balance.

He has good strong legs and feet correctly positioned with good alignment and pastern angles.

He also looks like he could do with a bit more conditioning to tighten his tummy and improve his muscle definition.

He wouldn't do well in a halter conformation class but is good looking overall eager to please solid type horse.

Personally, unless your mare has some outstanding characteristics I would suggest that buying a horse is more cost effective than breeding your own. When you buy one you KNOW what you are getting, when you breed for one you are playing genetic roulette and hope to stack the deck with finding a good genetic mate for you mare's genetic back ground. By the time the baby is ready to ride or show you have three years of costs.
Thanks Hook, your advice is appreciated, [^] and has confirmed my suspicions on his conformation too.

I don't know alot about quarter horses, (but I'm learnin)
This chap has Doc Bar on both sides, (in fact 3 times) as well as Bill Cody and Doc O lena, does that make sense to you?

I agree with you that buying a horse is probably the best way, just had this dream, while watching this stallion at a show at the weekend of a little golden baby from my mare, [:o)] but as you say it IS genetic roulette, and she hasn't got the best backend either so probably not a good match. So will keep looking out for a nice youngster I think.
I like his coloring and his demeanor seems to be very calm. I like a bigger butt on a horse, but he is good looking to me, with the saddle and rider on him it is hard to imagine his topline. Judging from this photo he is pleasing to the eye.
What would you use the baby for?
Well, Doc Bar and Doc Olena are well known cutting horse sires and they are also used for reining.

The ones I remember were mostly bays, really well balanced and a smaller more atheltic build so I wonder where this guy got his gorgeous colour and size.
He's really got a gorgeous front end, a little weak on the back end for a quarter horse but on any other breed that would be fine... and he's cute.

But my question, at risk of hijacking the thread, is what is people's opinion on the saddle placement in this picture? I'm having this debate, and this picture's a good illustration. Just right, or too far forward?

Looks to me like it's a little too far forward, but to move it back might cause the skirt to interfere with his hip. Maybe the saddle is too long for this horse?
I wonder where this guy got his gorgeous colour and size.

Looking at his breeding the colour comes through the dam of his sire (Steady Tradition) back on the female side to Hollywood Gold, and then to Gold Rush and Del Rey (1918). There are also a lot of buckskins so the 'dilute' gene is present many times.
The photo may be deceptive as this chap is only 14.2, and is very kind and quiet. His owner was in the next stable when we went visiting, and said, 'just go in with him, he loves visitors'!! She also said he's the sort of horse you can turn away for the winter and then just get on again as if there was no break.
He does mostly reining I believe, with maybe some western riding classes too.

What would you use the baby for?

Well most people here expect their horse to do lots of different things. I guess as shows aren't very numerous, you might as well have go at several things!! I think you tend to specialize more, in one discipline? I like Showmanship, Trail, Western Riding classes and trail ride too.

My mare is bay, her dam-sorrel, her sire-bay, so I think I'd only have a 50% chance of a palomino foal? that genetic roulette [Sad] .....probably should just keep it as a dream.......

PP and HM, I'm interested in your comments on saddle fit too, as it's a subject I'm facinated by, always looking at saddles and their fit.
Bree, the stud sounds like a good horse temperament wise. I asked about the use for the foal in case you were inclined toward classes where conformation would be judged. But for your uses I don't think that would be an issue, would it? If his good natured temperament is passed on, I would consider him still, but of course I don't know if your plans are to give this baby a forever home. If you tried to sell a baby whose conformation limited his uses then I would reconsider and get a foal that was already available.
I don't know if I consider myself only in one discipline. I do prefer riding western and trail riding, I don't show, but thats not to say I won't ever someday.
The saddle does look to far forward and it may be that it is just too long for the horse.
I thought the concho part of the saddle on a western should be a couple inches behind the shoulderblade (is that right, everyone?), but in this picture it looks like it's right on top of the shoulderblade. But the back is already pretty close to his hip, and if he's only 14.2 then yeah, it might just be too long for him.

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