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fracturedbones
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Posted - 10/01/2009 :  10:03:41 AM  Show Profile  Visit fracturedbones's Homepage Send fracturedbones a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Been looking at autotrader here and there to see if the deal of the century out there on a truck that can pull more. Looking at the F 250s between 2004-2006. Bad problems with 2006 Diesel 6.0L engines, so looking at the gas ones.

Question: The 5.4L engine: will that give me plenty of power to pull combined 3 horse and trailer wt 6000# and not lug uphill? My F 150 numbers say I can do it (4.6L) but even with one horse it is 45 on freeway with 1 horse if uphill grade.

Fire season starting so thinking a bit ahead. I am OK now on flat road with my current truck to get out...on flat land.

I'm ready for the DE expert help!

PS: flat tire yesterday and had to get towed...practically salivated at the rig the guy had, think it was a Dodge 4500 diesel...whoa!!!!power to the max!



Edited by - fracturedbones on 10/01/2009 10:06:43 AM

FLOOPER
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USA
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Posted - 10/09/2009 :  10:00:32 AM  Show Profile  Visit FLOOPER's Homepage Send FLOOPER a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey Bones...the 5.4 gasser will pull ya okay, but I would go for the Triton V10 if you want a gasser, or the 7.3 Power Stroke diesel (last made in early 03). You're right about staying away from the early 6.0 Power Strokes...they have a LOT of problems. But the 7.3s are one of the best light duty diesel motors ever built. I love mine. The Triton V10 has something like 350 hp and over 400 ft./lbs of torque...so it has nearly the pulling power of a diesel. I have talked with a lot of people who have the Triton V10s, and they absolutely love 'em. The biggest problem they had with them is on the late 99/early 2000 models they had some issues with spark plug blowouts...but not the later model ones.

Keep in mind one of the most important things is the rear gear ratio. You want at the very least 3.73 gears, and even better is 4.10s. Gearing has as much to do with pulling power as does motor size.

Flooper

"I'm a man. I can change. If I have to. I guess."
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PaintGal
Trail Boss (Moderator)



USA
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Posted - 10/09/2009 :  10:48:19 AM  Show Profile Send PaintGal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Flooper,

Where on the vehicle do you find those gear ratio numbers? I've looked for a big flashing arrow that points to it and big letters that say GEAR RATIO THINGY...but haven't located it yet.

Karen ~ Trails
&
Joe Paint Gelding
Paoli, IN


"My treasures do not sparkle or glitter, they shine in the sun and neigh in the night."



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FLOOPER
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USA
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Posted - 10/09/2009 :  3:39:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit FLOOPER's Homepage Send FLOOPER a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The easiest way is to ask the dealer what the gear ratio is. But a lot of times, they're too dumb to know.

So, the best way is to check the axle code on the sticker on the inside of the driver's side door. Here's an example of what the Ford sticker looks like:

http://www.fordf150.net/howto/decode.php


Then, once you know the axle code, look it up on the chart below. For example, my axle code is F2, which means it's a 4:10 limited slip.

Ford Axle Codes:

The following lists the gear ratios on rear axles.

31 3.73 non-limited slip, F-250/Excursion

C1 3.73 limited slip, F-250/Excursion

32 4.10 non-limited slip, F-250

C2 4.10 limited slip, F-250/Excursion

33 4.30 non-limited slip, F-250

C3 4.30 limited slip, F-250/Excursion

36 4.56 non-limited slip, F-250

C6 4.56 limited slip, F-250

41 3.73 non-limited slip, F-350 (single rear wheels)

D1 3.73 limited slip, F-350 (single rear wheels)

42 4.10 non-limited slip, F-350 (single rear wheels)

D2 4.10 limited slip, F-350 (single rear wheels)

43 4.30 non-limited slip, F-350 (single rear wheels)

D3 4.30 limited slip, F-350 (single rear wheels)

46 4.56 non-limited slip, F-350 (single rear wheels)

D6 4.56 limited slip, F-350 (single rear wheels)

61 3.73 non-limited slip, F-350 (dual rear wheels)

F1 3.73 limited slip, F-350 (dual rear wheels)

62 4.10 non-limited slip, F-350 (dual rear wheels)

F2 4.10 limited slip, F-350 (dual rear wheels)

63 4.30 non-limited slip, F-350 (dual rear wheels)

F3 4.30 limited slip, F-350 (dual rear wheels)

66 4.56 non-limited slip, F-350 (dual rear wheels)

F6 4.56 limited slip, F-350 (dual rear wheels)

81 3.73 non-limited slip, F-350 chassis cab, narrow frame (dual rear wheels)

E1 3.73 limited slip, F-350 chassis cab, narrow frame (dual rear wheels)

82 4.10 non-limited slip, F-350 chassis cab, narrow frame (dual rear wheels)

E2 4.10 limited slip, F-350 chassis cab, narrow frame (dual rear wheels)

83 4.30 non-limited slip, F-350 chassis cab, narrow frame (dual rear wheels)

E3 4.30 limited slip, F-350 chassis cab, narrow frame (dual rear wheels)

86 4.56 non-limited slip, F-350 chassis cab, narrow frame (dual rear wheels)

E6 4.56 limited slip, F-350 chassis cab, narrow frame (dual rear wheels)

88 4.88 non-limited slip, F-350 chassis cab, narrow frame (dual rear wheels)

EW 4.88 limited slip, F-350 chassis cab, narrow frame (dual rear wheels)

78 4.88 non-limited slip, F-450 chassis cab

G8 4.88 limited slip, F-450 chassis cab

75 5.38 non-limited slip, F-450 chassis cab

G5 5.38 limited slip, F-450 chassis cab

GW 4.10 limited slip, F-450 chassis cab

98 4.88 non-limited slip, F-550 chassis cab

K8 4.88 limited slip, F-550 chassis cab

95 5.38 non-limited slip, F-550 chassis cab

K5 5.38 limited slip, F-550 chassis cab

KW 4.10 limited slip, F-550 chassis cab




Flooper

"I'm a man. I can change. If I have to. I guess."
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killybean907
Clinician



USA
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Posted - 10/10/2009 :  01:36:53 AM  Show Profile Send killybean907 a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Wow Flooper....thanks for the great info! I will have to print it out to save. me?...I was kinda thinking along the same lines as PaintGal and was going to look for some arrows too...




It's not the years in your life that count, it's the life in your years.
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fracturedbones
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Posted - 10/11/2009 :  2:42:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit fracturedbones's Homepage Send fracturedbones a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah Flooper! Too late...went shopping and bought the F 250....I will check on the gear ratio but think it is fine. I was wondering about that though and the difference if you have the same 5.4 L engine....and the new F 150s frame changed so they say can pull more. So far liking what I have but need to get it rigged for towing this week.

I'm pulling the old brake controller out of the F 150 and putting it in the new truck. Trailer people thought that would be best way to go and save a little money.
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