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FLOOPER
Trail Boss (Moderator)
USA
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 Posted - 03/22/2006 : 3:21:40 PM
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These look like they coudl be really handy for tying to trailer, hitching post etc. when overnight camping without horse getting tangled around leg, etc.. Anyone tried them? There is a 3.5 foot and 7.5 foot version. I might try one just too see how they work...http://tinyurl.com/zv8qh <edited by Chuck see http://www.dailyequine.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2382 >
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Flooper
"I'm a man. I can change. If I have to. I guess."
The Man's Prayer from the Red Green Show |
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polocrosseplyer2
Beginning Rider
USA
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Posted - 03/22/2006 : 3:30:00 PM
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| pretty nifty... sounds good that they break under stress and are repairable |
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appygirl
Clinician
USA
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Posted - 03/22/2006 : 4:48:07 PM
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Yep, I've got two of them. They work reasonable well; however, it is still possible for a horse to become entangled, to a degree. I use mine quite a bit.
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Appygirl
Man does not have the only memory,
The animals remember,
The earth remembers,
The stones remember,
If you know how to listen, they will tell you many things.
- Claude Kuwanijuma - Hopi Spiritual leader
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EZ2SPOT
Clinician
USA
2981 Posts |
Posted - 03/22/2006 : 6:07:01 PM
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I have something like it, still in the package...just not sure about the safety factor. My older mare won't usually pull back if she is tied hard & fast, but will set back if she feels any "give". So I am leery of trying it with her. The other two horses are younger, and I have not tried it with them, either.
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FLOOPER
Trail Boss (Moderator)
USA
2483 Posts |
Posted - 03/22/2006 : 6:08:04 PM
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Appy,
Do you prefer these for tying up overnight (to a hitching post, for example), or just a regular lead rope? |
Flooper
"I'm a man. I can change. If I have to. I guess."
The Man's Prayer from the Red Green Show |
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appygirl
Clinician
USA
3017 Posts |
Posted - 03/22/2006 : 8:10:39 PM
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| I actually prefer my cotton lead rope. It's kind of like EZ said, there is 'give' in the coils, and I think the horses test them more. I think if they did get tangled in the coil it wouldn't hurt them as badly as a rope would. |
Appygirl
Man does not have the only memory,
The animals remember,
The earth remembers,
The stones remember,
If you know how to listen, they will tell you many things.
- Claude Kuwanijuma - Hopi Spiritual leader
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Red Hawk
Clinician
USA
4385 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2006 : 10:33:28 AM
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| Anybody want one, I'll sell you mine. Like EZ's, it's still in the original packaging and never been opened. Never really found a use for it, and I just use a regular lead rope with a flat nylon halter for tying my horse overnight to a hitch rail with no major problems. |
"God forbid that I should go to any heaven in which there are no horses"
--Robert Browning
Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Just walk beside me and be my friend.
-- Author Unknown
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OnTheWay
Clinician
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Posted - 03/26/2006 : 06:14:40 AM
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Howdy,
Flooper thanks for posting the call-out, sorry for the delayed response, I've been DOWN with a stomach flu for over a week so almost no time on computer.
The coil tie looked great to me but good points of "con" sides were brought up, so I'm glad you posted the link for discussion.
RH if you tie your horse overnight to a hitch rail, how long do you let the lead rope be? Second, can the horse lie down if she figures out she can do so asssuming she keeps her head close to the tie source? Or do you just figure they'll be okay if they stand there all night without lying down? I haven't ever tied a horse like that so I am still not "getting it" about the length -- what's safe, etc.? Someone said to let it hang straight down from tie source and figure 2" (someone else said 6") from the ground. At 6" it sure doesn't seem that would let the horse eat.
Thanks for clarification, I may have asked this before in a different way, but I seem to be slow on this one.
Carol
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Saddletramp
Trail Boss (Moderator)
USA
2546 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2006 : 07:42:46 AM
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More uses than just tying to hitch rail!! You all may want to rethink those coils that are still in their packages! rofl
From the ad:
"Also great for hanging toys in the stall, holding your dog or keeping track of kids at shows." |
-Saddletramp
"She never moved the stars from their courses,
but she loved a good man and she rode good horses" |
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EZ2SPOT
Clinician
USA
2981 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2006 : 11:05:16 AM
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I like the last one about kids at shows the best!!!!!
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Red Hawk
Clinician
USA
4385 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2006 : 12:26:00 PM
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OTW: The way I've always done it is to tie my horse to the hitch rail with just enough rope so the horse can touch her nose to the ground. So, the length would vary depending on the horse and how the halter fits the horse. For Terra or Dove this would be about 2 or 3 inches from the ground. This way, the horse can lay down on her belly but probably couldn't lay prone on their side very easily... though I have seen some horses sleeping at the hitch rail with their heads raised a little off the ground due to the length of the lead rope. It looks like they would break their necks in this position, but the owners have assured me their horses sleep like that all the time when camping out  . |
"God forbid that I should go to any heaven in which there are no horses"
--Robert Browning
Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Just walk beside me and be my friend.
-- Author Unknown
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OnTheWay
Clinician
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Posted - 03/26/2006 : 11:37:07 PM
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Thanks much, RH... That explains it well. Actually, one of the photos shown on the link to the highline website had a horse lying down on its side, but the chin/mouth area was suspended from the rope about 3 inches up. I wondered about that also (looked uncomfortable as could be) and wasn't sure I was seeing the photo right, but from what you're describing, yup, they actually will lie down like that. Amaaaazing.
So I guess I don't get the difference between tying a horse to a hitching post or to a trailer. Unless, if course, a scenario like you described earlier where the horse could pull the trailer if not hitched up to the truck. Is that the main reason why people don't like to tie to a trailer? Or... ah wait, I think there was something about chewing on paint or tires. Now there's some serious incentive not to use a trailer, lol.
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Red Hawk
Clinician
USA
4385 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2006 : 10:36:13 AM
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Actually, the reason I'd be leary of tying a horse overnight to a trailer is injury to the horse, OTW. Some horses like to paw and could easily bruise or cut their legs on some trailers doing this.
Another thing I've seen happen is when the horse is given enough lead rope to get their head to the ground and then catch the rope on the bottom of the trailer. This can happen very easily if the horse is tied to the back corner of a trailer. And when they are in a full blown panic from this, anything can happen including major rope burns and lacerations to the head or front legs. I've seen it so bad that the horse had to have stitches. It's not a pretty sight. This is the main reason I always tie my horse short when he's standing for any length of time at the trailer... usually with only about 10 to 12 inches from the snap on the halter to the tie ring on the trailer.
One other thing I've seen happen, too, is horses chewing on exposed electrical wiring on some trailers. Mine is a good example because the wiring for my trailer lights stick out behind the panel the lights are in. My trailer has some age but it's served me well over the years, and I watch out for things like this when I haul horses or tie them to the trailer during the day after reaching my destination.
So, if hitch rails or stalls aren't available, and I'll be camping overnight, I'd definitely be looking for a good spot to put up a high line between two trees for my horse's accommodations. |
"God forbid that I should go to any heaven in which there are no horses"
--Robert Browning
Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Just walk beside me and be my friend.
-- Author Unknown
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OnTheWay
Clinician
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Posted - 03/28/2006 : 02:10:12 AM
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Originally posted by Red Hawk
Actually, the reason I'd be leary of tying a horse overnight to a trailer is injury to the horse, OTW. Some horses like to paw and could easily bruise or cut their legs on some trailers doing this.
Another thing I've seen happen is when the horse is given enough lead rope to get their head to the ground and then catch the rope on the bottom of the trailer. This can happen very easily if the horse is tied to the back corner of a trailer. And when they are in a full blown panic from this, anything can happen including major rope burns and lacerations to the head or front legs. I've seen it so bad that the horse had to have stitches. It's not a pretty sight. This is the main reason I always tie my horse short when he's standing for any length of time at the trailer... usually with only about 10 to 12 inches from the snap on the halter to the tie ring on the trailer.
One other thing I've seen happen, too, is horses chewing on exposed electrical wiring on some trailers. Mine is a good example because the wiring for my trailer lights stick out behind the panel the lights are in. My trailer has some age but it's served me well over the years, and I watch out for things like this when I haul horses or tie them to the trailer during the day after reaching my destination.
So, if hitch rails or stalls aren't available, and I'll be camping overnight, I'd definitely be looking for a good spot to put up a high line between two trees for my horse's accommodations.
Those are good concrete reasons that are easily pictured with all the disaster potential clear, RH, thanks!
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FLOOPER
Trail Boss (Moderator)
USA
2483 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2006 : 09:58:14 AM
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Chuck,
Just noticed you changed the link...sorry...didn't realize the place sold saddles...I thought they were just vet supplies and stuff like that...should have looked closer. Ooooooops!! |
Flooper
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