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countryside_wave
Groomer



USA
40 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  12:21:27 AM  Show Profile  Visit countryside_wave's Homepage Send countryside_wave a Private Message
lol...well just thought Iíd let ya all know whatís going on being that i seem to be a hot topic around here. The CBER does not operate here in town so that feel through.

However last month when I was up seeing the INDIAN RESERVATION horses a truck pulled up to take one of them out. I got to talking with the lady and she said basically their "****ter horses" and they belong to the Yakima Indians. I asked if was ok for me to be out there she gave me contact info for one of the chiefs. I called him up and he gave me the go ahead and basically told me I could ride and groom but not take them out or give medical attention, and if I got hurt it's my fault.

so yeah it's so awesome Iíve gotten a lot better at riding and he is starting to turn when I lean/que but only about 70% of the time. He lifts his feet and backs. He's such a cool horse I wish I could buy him so bad. I don't know why they call them "****ter horses" thatís so untrue. It's amazing how much you learn just by working with a horse.

what does it mean when they bob their head up and down real fast? i'll just be grooming him and he starts bobbing his head and kinda dances around a bit. is it aggression or did I just hit a good spot??? he sometimes does it when I first go out there.

Thanks all

PaintGal
Trail Boss (Moderator)



USA
5300 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  07:23:37 AM  Show Profile Send PaintGal a Private Message
I'm so glad you contacted someone and now have permission to be on the property. It's too bad that the CBER doesn't have a facility near you though. It is a worry that you are out there with those horses with no help around. Apparently, you could be there for days before anyone found you if you were hurt.

Have you checked with ranches in the area to see if you could volunteer? Perhaps volunteer for a vet?

Karen ~ Trails
&
Joe Paint Gelding
Paoli, IN


"My treasures do not sparkle or glitter, they shine in the sun and neigh in the night."



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PaintGal
Trail Boss (Moderator)



USA
5300 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  07:23:37 AM  Show Profile Send PaintGal a Private Message
I'm so glad you contacted someone and now have permission to be on the property. It's too bad that the CBER doesn't have a facility near you though. It is a worry that you are out there with those horses with no help around. Apparently, you could be there for days before anyone found you if you were hurt.

Have you checked with ranches in the area to see if you could volunteer? Perhaps volunteer for a vet?

Karen ~ Trails
&
Joe Paint Gelding
Paoli, IN


"My treasures do not sparkle or glitter, they shine in the sun and neigh in the night."



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Saddletramp
Trail Boss (Moderator)



USA
2546 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  07:42:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit Saddletramp's Homepage Send Saddletramp a Private Message
See, CSW- You DID find the owner, and you DID get permission, after maybe feeling that you couldn't. Too bad the CBER thing didn't work out, those horses would benefit from help too.

Like PG said...if you get hurt, you could be there a long time....if a cell phone gets service out there, think about taking one with you, and maybe consider investing in a helmet....at the very least, always let someone at home know when/where you will be.

(Naw, you weren't a hot topic....someone just dragged the topic up within the last day or so.)

-Saddletramp

"She never moved the stars from their courses,
but she loved a good man and she rode good horses"
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Saddletramp
Trail Boss (Moderator)



USA
2546 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  07:42:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit Saddletramp's Homepage Send Saddletramp a Private Message
See, CSW- You DID find the owner, and you DID get permission, after maybe feeling that you couldn't. Too bad the CBER thing didn't work out, those horses would benefit from help too.

Like PG said...if you get hurt, you could be there a long time....if a cell phone gets service out there, think about taking one with you, and maybe consider investing in a helmet....at the very least, always let someone at home know when/where you will be.

(Naw, you weren't a hot topic....someone just dragged the topic up within the last day or so.)

-Saddletramp

"She never moved the stars from their courses,
but she loved a good man and she rode good horses"
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Parrothead
Trainer



USA
559 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  09:22:22 AM  Show Profile Send Parrothead a Private Message
Awesome CSW, so glad you can now legally take medication (exposure to horses) for your case of incurable equine fever. Just what the doctor ordered.
PLEASE be careful. Ask any of us with broken bones how quickly incidents can happen. Cell phone, helmet are both good ideas.

What are the chances you may rent or lease this horse for a nominal fee? The word *****ter scares me. You have no control over what will happen to this horse. Someday the truck may come for him and your heart will be broken.

Gotta ask, if you are riding sans tack, how do you mount and how do you ask for a whoa?

So what color is he and what did you name him.

I usually interpret the quick head bob as a happy sign. Unless he moves toward you and head butts you. I take that as aggression.

Jill
Life is too short to ride bad horses.
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Parrothead
Trainer



USA
559 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  09:22:22 AM  Show Profile Send Parrothead a Private Message
Awesome CSW, so glad you can now legally take medication (exposure to horses) for your case of incurable equine fever. Just what the doctor ordered.
PLEASE be careful. Ask any of us with broken bones how quickly incidents can happen. Cell phone, helmet are both good ideas.

What are the chances you may rent or lease this horse for a nominal fee? The word *****ter scares me. You have no control over what will happen to this horse. Someday the truck may come for him and your heart will be broken.

Gotta ask, if you are riding sans tack, how do you mount and how do you ask for a whoa?

So what color is he and what did you name him.

I usually interpret the quick head bob as a happy sign. Unless he moves toward you and head butts you. I take that as aggression.

Jill
Life is too short to ride bad horses.
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Red Hawk
Clinician



USA
5092 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  10:10:15 AM  Show Profile Send Red Hawk a Private Message
The head bobbing depends on the horse's attitude. If the ears are pinned with the head bobbing, the horse is aggravated and could turn on the handler. But if the horse is relaxed with an "Oh, that feel so good!" expression on his face, then he's content.

CSW; I echo everyone else's concerns for your welfare now that you do have permission to be with these horses. I'm so glad you did as this takes a big load off our minds here on DE. I've been injured several times through the years I've been with horses. I am just so thankful that each time, someone was nearby to help get me to the ER at the local hospital. Please wear a helmet and let someone know where you are going to be and for how long just in case something should happen. We care about your well being. Stay safe.

"God forbid that I should go to any heaven in which there are no horses"
--Robert Browning

Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Just walk beside me and be my friend.
-- Author Unknown
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Red Hawk
Clinician



USA
5092 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  10:10:15 AM  Show Profile Send Red Hawk a Private Message
The head bobbing depends on the horse's attitude. If the ears are pinned with the head bobbing, the horse is aggravated and could turn on the handler. But if the horse is relaxed with an "Oh, that feel so good!" expression on his face, then he's content.

CSW; I echo everyone else's concerns for your welfare now that you do have permission to be with these horses. I'm so glad you did as this takes a big load off our minds here on DE. I've been injured several times through the years I've been with horses. I am just so thankful that each time, someone was nearby to help get me to the ER at the local hospital. Please wear a helmet and let someone know where you are going to be and for how long just in case something should happen. We care about your well being. Stay safe.

"God forbid that I should go to any heaven in which there are no horses"
--Robert Browning

Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Just walk beside me and be my friend.
-- Author Unknown
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countryside_wave
Groomer



USA
40 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  1:51:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit countryside_wave's Homepage Send countryside_wave a Private Message
yeah Iím so glad I ran into that lady although she was kinda mean. She kept going off on how their all ****er horses the are no good and nobody wants them so they stay out here.. blah blah but oh well at least they have each other. Thereís this horse by the greenway (a jogging trial) that is all by himself and scared to death of everything. Itís so sad.

yeah I usualy tell my mom when I head up there. lol..I guess I could wear my mt. bike helmet.

Believe me thoughts have ran by about buying/leasing him but a don't have a trailer or any gear at all (except two brushes and a pick).

Yeah parrot I would be crushed if they moved him. He knows the sound of my truck and one time i went up there he didn't come running. i got out and whistled and looked saw everyone but him and then he came running out of the trees. it scared me cause i know they move them around. it crosses my mind a lot.

To mount I just put one hand on the withers and one on the loin jump and press up and swing my leg over. Why?

Ok yeah this is where I need some help the whoa is not going so good this is what I do. From a trot I say whoa and rap my arms around his neck and pull gently. But he only slows to a walk so then I just swing leg over and dismount. He then stops and looks at me funny and comes over. poor horse he's like "what the hell are you doing I didn't stop yet" I can do it safely and I donít mind but it would be nice if he would stop, you got any advise?

I've been calling him Shady but that's not for sure yet. He is a deep black.

yeah he must do the head bob dance cause he's happy. It looks really funny. The first time he did it I was so confused.

PG: There is A big boarding facility a few miles away I might go
there.

Thanks for the help guys


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countryside_wave
Groomer



USA
40 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  1:51:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit countryside_wave's Homepage Send countryside_wave a Private Message
yeah Iím so glad I ran into that lady although she was kinda mean. She kept going off on how their all ****er horses the are no good and nobody wants them so they stay out here.. blah blah but oh well at least they have each other. Thereís this horse by the greenway (a jogging trial) that is all by himself and scared to death of everything. Itís so sad.

yeah I usualy tell my mom when I head up there. lol..I guess I could wear my mt. bike helmet.

Believe me thoughts have ran by about buying/leasing him but a don't have a trailer or any gear at all (except two brushes and a pick).

Yeah parrot I would be crushed if they moved him. He knows the sound of my truck and one time i went up there he didn't come running. i got out and whistled and looked saw everyone but him and then he came running out of the trees. it scared me cause i know they move them around. it crosses my mind a lot.

To mount I just put one hand on the withers and one on the loin jump and press up and swing my leg over. Why?

Ok yeah this is where I need some help the whoa is not going so good this is what I do. From a trot I say whoa and rap my arms around his neck and pull gently. But he only slows to a walk so then I just swing leg over and dismount. He then stops and looks at me funny and comes over. poor horse he's like "what the hell are you doing I didn't stop yet" I can do it safely and I donít mind but it would be nice if he would stop, you got any advise?

I've been calling him Shady but that's not for sure yet. He is a deep black.

yeah he must do the head bob dance cause he's happy. It looks really funny. The first time he did it I was so confused.

PG: There is A big boarding facility a few miles away I might go
there.

Thanks for the help guys


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fracturedbones
Clinician



3424 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  3:11:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit fracturedbones's Homepage Send fracturedbones a Private Message
CSW...just gotta ask....are you riding this horse in the pasture with the other horses...sans helmet, bridle and saddle? No bridle? No bridle????? No bridle??????? Would suggest getting all three if you want control and safety. If I'm off track, I appologize.

The boarding facility sounds safer!!!
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fracturedbones
Clinician



3424 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  3:11:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit fracturedbones's Homepage Send fracturedbones a Private Message
CSW...just gotta ask....are you riding this horse in the pasture with the other horses...sans helmet, bridle and saddle? No bridle? No bridle????? No bridle??????? Would suggest getting all three if you want control and safety. If I'm off track, I appologize.

The boarding facility sounds safer!!!
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FLOOPER
Trail Boss (Moderator)



USA
2493 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  4:02:31 PM  Show Profile  Visit FLOOPER's Homepage Send FLOOPER a Private Message
CSW--I must say, your stories are touching my heart. Unless you are yanking our chains, you obviously have a deep love of horses, and have already started a wonderful relationship with Shady.

If I were you, I would do everything I possibly could to buy/lease this horse, and just keep it there for now. You obviously have a connection with this horse, and like others have said, you would be crushed if he were sold/etc. On the other side, it also sounds like this horse could benefit from having you as an owner...it really does sound to me like you two were meant to be together.

I also agree with everyone else. Get a halter and lead rope, at least, for your rides on Shady. A bridle would be much, much better ( and safer) but make sure you have someone who knows how to put it on the horse, adjust it, etc. if you don't. Find a horse person who can be your mentor.

And be sure and get a helmet...especially since you're a newer rider, and you don't really know Shady all that well yet.

I admire your "jump on and ride" spirit and your obvious love of the horse. But do what's right for the horse's safety, and for your own...bridle and helmet!!

Keep posting...

Flooper

"I'm a man. I can change. If I have to. I guess."
The Man's Prayer from the Red Green Show
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FLOOPER
Trail Boss (Moderator)



USA
2493 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  4:02:31 PM  Show Profile  Visit FLOOPER's Homepage Send FLOOPER a Private Message
CSW--I must say, your stories are touching my heart. Unless you are yanking our chains, you obviously have a deep love of horses, and have already started a wonderful relationship with Shady.

If I were you, I would do everything I possibly could to buy/lease this horse, and just keep it there for now. You obviously have a connection with this horse, and like others have said, you would be crushed if he were sold/etc. On the other side, it also sounds like this horse could benefit from having you as an owner...it really does sound to me like you two were meant to be together.

I also agree with everyone else. Get a halter and lead rope, at least, for your rides on Shady. A bridle would be much, much better ( and safer) but make sure you have someone who knows how to put it on the horse, adjust it, etc. if you don't. Find a horse person who can be your mentor.

And be sure and get a helmet...especially since you're a newer rider, and you don't really know Shady all that well yet.

I admire your "jump on and ride" spirit and your obvious love of the horse. But do what's right for the horse's safety, and for your own...bridle and helmet!!

Keep posting...

Flooper

"I'm a man. I can change. If I have to. I guess."
The Man's Prayer from the Red Green Show
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countryside_wave
Groomer



USA
40 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  8:32:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit countryside_wave's Homepage Send countryside_wave a Private Message
There are 8 other horses in the field (it's a huge field) there are only a couple of other horses that will come up for attention but mostly they stray away. The only time a ride is when I have Shady away from the others, which takes awhile.

like I said I have absolutely no ride equipment. I went down to Big R to look and couldn't believe how expensive that stuff is.

How does a bridle make riding safer? I don't know anybody that has knowledge about horses but you guys. So although I think I could put one on I don't know the proper fit or really even how to use one (I donít think this horse would be that patient). It probably would make turning easier!

I have read that some "unbroke" horses don't mind a bareback ride but once you put a saddle and equipment on they freak out. I'm pretty sure this horse has been riden well and is broke but I don't want to risk messing with equipment that I don't know how to use.

This horse is very special to me but right now I can barely afford my college tuition, it just isn't the right time to take on the responsibility of owning him. If it's meant to be he'll still be there when I graduate in three years right now Iím using this opportunity to gain as much knowledge as I can so Iíll be better when time allows.

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countryside_wave
Groomer



USA
40 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  8:32:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit countryside_wave's Homepage Send countryside_wave a Private Message
There are 8 other horses in the field (it's a huge field) there are only a couple of other horses that will come up for attention but mostly they stray away. The only time a ride is when I have Shady away from the others, which takes awhile.

like I said I have absolutely no ride equipment. I went down to Big R to look and couldn't believe how expensive that stuff is.

How does a bridle make riding safer? I don't know anybody that has knowledge about horses but you guys. So although I think I could put one on I don't know the proper fit or really even how to use one (I donít think this horse would be that patient). It probably would make turning easier!

I have read that some "unbroke" horses don't mind a bareback ride but once you put a saddle and equipment on they freak out. I'm pretty sure this horse has been riden well and is broke but I don't want to risk messing with equipment that I don't know how to use.

This horse is very special to me but right now I can barely afford my college tuition, it just isn't the right time to take on the responsibility of owning him. If it's meant to be he'll still be there when I graduate in three years right now Iím using this opportunity to gain as much knowledge as I can so Iíll be better when time allows.

~Keep talkin to me~






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Parrothead
Trainer



USA
559 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  11:01:57 PM  Show Profile Send Parrothead a Private Message
CSW !! you jump on??? my old bones are incredibly jealous!! If it weren't for picnic tables and upturned 5 gal buckets my abundant hinny would be land locked. ;-)

It's good to see you move Shady away from the rest to ride. Much safer. Even an innocent snort and kick of the heels can present real danger.

I wouldn't worry too much about a saddle. My 62yr old aunt still prefers to ride bareback. If your start with a bridle then ya get into bits, biting, dentistry and a lot of other stuff, though a halter and lead rope might come in real handy. For other views on riding without a bridle search for posts from tru_cowgirl, but be warned and wear your asbestos coveralls. It started ugly and got uglier.

To work on whoa from a walk you might try doing the body movements many take just before they apply pressure to the reins to ask for a whoa. Sitting up straighter-almost to a lean back, lengthen your legs by pressing down on your heels, then tilt your pelvis back a tinch, like you are going to sit on your pockets, exhale. Do all almost simultaneously.

Keep reading the posts from others on training. I have picked more information here in a year than I had in the first 10 years I rode.

Good luck and WEAR YOUR HELMET!!

Jill
Life is too short to ride bad horses.

Edited by - Parrothead on 12/09/2005 11:05:06 PM
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Parrothead
Trainer



USA
559 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2005 :  11:01:57 PM  Show Profile Send Parrothead a Private Message
CSW !! you jump on??? my old bones are incredibly jealous!! If it weren't for picnic tables and upturned 5 gal buckets my abundant hinny would be land locked. ;-)

It's good to see you move Shady away from the rest to ride. Much safer. Even an innocent snort and kick of the heels can present real danger.

I wouldn't worry too much about a saddle. My 62yr old aunt still prefers to ride bareback. If your start with a bridle then ya get into bits, biting, dentistry and a lot of other stuff, though a halter and lead rope might come in real handy. For other views on riding without a bridle search for posts from tru_cowgirl, but be warned and wear your asbestos coveralls. It started ugly and got uglier.

To work on whoa from a walk you might try doing the body movements many take just before they apply pressure to the reins to ask for a whoa. Sitting up straighter-almost to a lean back, lengthen your legs by pressing down on your heels, then tilt your pelvis back a tinch, like you are going to sit on your pockets, exhale. Do all almost simultaneously.

Keep reading the posts from others on training. I have picked more information here in a year than I had in the first 10 years I rode.

Good luck and WEAR YOUR HELMET!!

Jill
Life is too short to ride bad horses.

Edited by - Parrothead on 12/09/2005 11:05:06 PM
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Stormie
Clinician

1630 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2005 :  01:03:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit Stormie's Homepage Send Stormie a Private Message
"I'm pretty sure this horse has been riden well and is broke but I don't want to risk messing with equipment that I don't know how to use."

Isn't that what you are doing with the horse, messing with something dangerous you don't know how to use. Sorry but I don't agree with what you are doing, before or after asking about. It is dangerous to you and the horse.

I'm sure if you looked around you could find someone there to help you. When you talked to the owners was there any chance that some one could help you learn before you hurt yourself. If they don't care about these horses they might be more then willing to let you lease or buy the horse and maybe even help you.

A bike helmet is not rated for horse back riding. When riding you normally are falling from a much higher level at different angles then if you go off a bike. It might help but it's not going to be as safe as a horse helmet. Riding helmets have come down in price you can get a good approved one for around $30-40, less if you find one on sale.

A bridle would make it safer to ride because it gives you(a total green horn) a way to cue the horse about what you want. The horse was probably not taught to ride without one so you are having to train the horse to go without a bridle when you don't know what the heck you are doing anyway. BUT I don't think you should go out and buy a bridle. Ask the owners(who I think are out of the minds) because you can't just buy a bridle and slap it on, you have to have the right bit that the horse is use to, and adjust it correctly. Same with a saddle. Besides going out and buying stuff for this horse and falling in love with him is just setting you up. I still can't believe you didn't think the owner would have a problem. I would be reaching for the gun if I caught someone doing that to my horses. I remember reading that you didn't think that an owner would be upset until someone said somthing about a car but I'm sure you are old enough to know that if you owned an animal you would not want someone else to be doing this with it.

Please get help besides this board. This is a living animal that you don't know much about handling. They are dangerous enough when you do know about them and they are well trained. You might think that you can't get hurt or that you have some 'bond' with him that will keep you safe but that isn't true. You can hurt and normally the ones that really get you are the ones you feel the most comfortable with and don't think will hurt you. They don't always mean to but it happens.
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Stormie
Clinician

1630 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2005 :  01:03:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit Stormie's Homepage Send Stormie a Private Message
"I'm pretty sure this horse has been riden well and is broke but I don't want to risk messing with equipment that I don't know how to use."

Isn't that what you are doing with the horse, messing with something dangerous you don't know how to use. Sorry but I don't agree with what you are doing, before or after asking about. It is dangerous to you and the horse.

I'm sure if you looked around you could find someone there to help you. When you talked to the owners was there any chance that some one could help you learn before you hurt yourself. If they don't care about these horses they might be more then willing to let you lease or buy the horse and maybe even help you.

A bike helmet is not rated for horse back riding. When riding you normally are falling from a much higher level at different angles then if you go off a bike. It might help but it's not going to be as safe as a horse helmet. Riding helmets have come down in price you can get a good approved one for around $30-40, less if you find one on sale.

A bridle would make it safer to ride because it gives you(a total green horn) a way to cue the horse about what you want. The horse was probably not taught to ride without one so you are having to train the horse to go without a bridle when you don't know what the heck you are doing anyway. BUT I don't think you should go out and buy a bridle. Ask the owners(who I think are out of the minds) because you can't just buy a bridle and slap it on, you have to have the right bit that the horse is use to, and adjust it correctly. Same with a saddle. Besides going out and buying stuff for this horse and falling in love with him is just setting you up. I still can't believe you didn't think the owner would have a problem. I would be reaching for the gun if I caught someone doing that to my horses. I remember reading that you didn't think that an owner would be upset until someone said somthing about a car but I'm sure you are old enough to know that if you owned an animal you would not want someone else to be doing this with it.

Please get help besides this board. This is a living animal that you don't know much about handling. They are dangerous enough when you do know about them and they are well trained. You might think that you can't get hurt or that you have some 'bond' with him that will keep you safe but that isn't true. You can hurt and normally the ones that really get you are the ones you feel the most comfortable with and don't think will hurt you. They don't always mean to but it happens.
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southern_style
Tenderfoot



USA
7 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2005 :  02:56:52 AM  Show Profile  Visit southern_style's Homepage Send southern_style a Private Message
CW: hey that's awesome sounds like your having fun with shady. Wow i can't imagine ridin with no gear. has he always responded well or did ya have to work him into it?

so the lady that was up there, where did she take the other horse?

****ter horses are usually ones that have or had medical problems. But most the time they are pulled tendons / ligaments that only need a year or so of rest and then they are fine. what condition are the other horses in?

you said in an earlier post that you've been going up there for about a year now right? but how long have you been rindin him?

i would say don't wast your money on any equipment it sounds like it's workin out. besides you don't plan on takin him out trial ridin or entering shows so for just trotting along in a field you should be fine. halter and lead line would be your best buy if anything you can get those around 30 - 40.

happy ridin
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southern_style
Tenderfoot



USA
7 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2005 :  02:56:52 AM  Show Profile  Visit southern_style's Homepage Send southern_style a Private Message
CW: hey that's awesome sounds like your having fun with shady. Wow i can't imagine ridin with no gear. has he always responded well or did ya have to work him into it?

so the lady that was up there, where did she take the other horse?

****ter horses are usually ones that have or had medical problems. But most the time they are pulled tendons / ligaments that only need a year or so of rest and then they are fine. what condition are the other horses in?

you said in an earlier post that you've been going up there for about a year now right? but how long have you been rindin him?

i would say don't wast your money on any equipment it sounds like it's workin out. besides you don't plan on takin him out trial ridin or entering shows so for just trotting along in a field you should be fine. halter and lead line would be your best buy if anything you can get those around 30 - 40.

happy ridin
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Hook
Trail Boss (Moderator)



Canada
6115 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2005 :  07:55:36 AM  Show Profile  Visit Hook's Homepage Send Hook a Private Message
Coutryside;
I am still not sure if you are just puttin us on with this bare back, isolated herd stuff. What you are doing seems to be working okay for you. I am sure you understand the risks by now and know what you want to do. I cannot, as a responsible adult, encourage you to continue this but please be careful and make sure someone knows where you are so that if something does happen your chance of survival is better. I would feel a lot better if you would take a buddy to the field with you when you ride. Happy trails to you.

Hook(ed)......on Horses

"The best things in life are nearest: Breath in your nostrils, light in your eyes, flowers at your feet, duties at your hand, the path of right just before you. Then do not grasp at the stars, but do life's plain, common work as it comes, certain that daily duties and daily bread are the sweetest things in life. " Author: Robert Louis Stevenson
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Hook
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Posted - 12/10/2005 :  07:55:36 AM  Show Profile  Visit Hook's Homepage Send Hook a Private Message
Coutryside;
I am still not sure if you are just puttin us on with this bare back, isolated herd stuff. What you are doing seems to be working okay for you. I am sure you understand the risks by now and know what you want to do. I cannot, as a responsible adult, encourage you to continue this but please be careful and make sure someone knows where you are so that if something does happen your chance of survival is better. I would feel a lot better if you would take a buddy to the field with you when you ride. Happy trails to you.

Hook(ed)......on Horses

"The best things in life are nearest: Breath in your nostrils, light in your eyes, flowers at your feet, duties at your hand, the path of right just before you. Then do not grasp at the stars, but do life's plain, common work as it comes, certain that daily duties and daily bread are the sweetest things in life. " Author: Robert Louis Stevenson
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Red Hawk
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Posted - 12/10/2005 :  12:55:20 PM  Show Profile Send Red Hawk a Private Message
I agree 100% with Stormie on this one.

CSW; Would you drive a car without any knowledge of how to drive one? Would you use any piece of machinery without first understanding how to operate it? I realize a horse is a breathing, living animal, but in this case it is no different. If no one has ever shown you how to ride safely including bridling & saddling the horse, you are putting yourself in grave danger. Even with permission, there is no way I would get on a horse I've never been on in a herd environment. Heck, I wouldn't even do that with a horse I've known for years and with a bridle & saddle.

And the owners are crazy in one respect. Your word that if you get hurt, it's at your own risk would never hold up in court. You could still sue them because they are liable for the actions of those horses. The horses are their property. And I, for one, would never forgive myself if I let you do something that could be life threatening. You can get seriously injured on a horse you've ridden for years. Think how much greater that risk is in the situation you're talking about.

I'm not trying to crush your dreams with this horse you've been riding. I just cringe when I think of you putting yourself in such danger. I care that you stay whole and in one piece. An accident in a herd of horses can happen in an instant, and you won't even realize it's happened until it's over and you discover you're in serious trouble with no one at hand to help you get to a hospital. I know... I've been there.

In my younger days, I would've thought what you are doing is the coolest thing in the world. Sounds a lot like the Black Stallion books, but remember... that's a fantasy and not reality. Wake up and read more of the posts made on this board. When taking up riding:

#1. Buy or lease a horse or ride a schooling horse under a competent instructor.

#2. Have someone instruct you on the proper use of a halter, lead, saddle, & bridle.

#3. Always wear proper safety equipment such as a certified riding helmet.

#4. Ride in a safe environment (such as an arena, a round pen, or a small lot) and under supervision until you know enough to go it alone.

Until you do all these things, you have no business fooling around with horses. I sincerely hope you take this as it's intended. What you are doing scares me to death. I know it takes money to do all this, and if you can't afford it at this time, you really ought to wait until you can. The time will come with just a little patience.

Please be safe. Those that play with fire usually get burned, and I say this with your safety as the #1 priority in my mind. You sound like a nice girl. Let's just keep you whole... okay?

I know, I know... I ought to change my user name to worry wart, but can anybody blame me?

"God forbid that I should go to any heaven in which there are no horses"
--Robert Browning

Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Just walk beside me and be my friend.
-- Author Unknown
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